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3rd-Jan-2035 10:29 pm
Silver

So, I came up with a list of my stories thus far, and their order in my timeline. Includes known events, and unwritten fics. Will be updated periodically. For Japanese names, it is given family name first, given second (Japanese order):

(Placeholder for Story list)

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|Unknown date: Ginata Isabella Moretti (Madame Boss) and Alden Rochat marry
|November 17, unknown year: Dvorah Hill and Gavriel Awres marry
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|August 1st, (1966?): Birth of Iian Giovanni Rochat
|October 21st, (1966?): Birth of Seren Esther Awres
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|Unknown date, (1971?): Giovanni befriends Persian, saves him from the Pokemon Collection Agency
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|January/February, 1974?: Beginnings/ Giovanni meets Seren
|March, same year: Illness
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|Late October, 1977?: Childhood/ Giovanni and Seren pass their Pokemon Trainer's Tests
|October 21st: Birthday/Seren turns 10, and heads off on journey with Giovanni.
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|Unknown date: Giovanni and Seren meet Miyamoto "Miya" Hanako  and her future husband, when Miyamoto is charged with watching them while MB and Alden are out of town.
|Unknown Date: G & S meet Domino's future mother, Robin, and her future husband at a Pokemon conference
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|January, 1980: Giovanni and Seren kidnapped by a rival of his mother's. (May write a story, but it's pretty gritty)
|Unknown date, Same year: Giovanni's twin siblings, Stefan and "De", are born
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November, 1981: Medicine?/Giovanni and Seren run away to Johto after he barely survives an infection he gets from being abused by MB
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|Unknown date (1982?): Giovanni asks Gavriel (Seren's father) for her hand in marriage
|Unknown (1983?): Giovanni converts to Judaism to marry her
|Same year: G&S are bethrothed
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|Unknown date, 1983: James is born
Unknown date, 1983: Jessie born

|October 2nd, 1984: Giovanni and Seren are married, are subsequently drafted into the army the same day. (Story will be written, not sure what prompt)
|Unknown date: Goivanni, Seren, Miyamoto and her hsuband, Robin and her husband, join the Okami Brigade (Special Forces)
|Unknown Date: Giovanni promoted to head of Okami Brigade, is nicknamed "Okami no Okashira" (Wolf's Head), Seren acquires the nickname "Kitsune"
|Unknown date: Seren and Giovanni are captured by North Korean forces during war, manage to get that squad wiped when they "give up" false information
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|November 8th, unknown year (1985/1986?): Rosa-Bree born (?Smile?)
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|May 15th, 1989: Hadassah Raphaela Awres (Seren's sister) born
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|April 2nd, unknown year (1990?): Domino Mizaki is born
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|June 25th, (1991?): Giovanni Jr, Giovanna, Yocheved, and Aino Rochat born
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|Unknown date: Miyamoto's husband dies, Miya is forced to adopt out Jessie to have her cared for
|Later that year: Robin's husband dies on mission
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|Unknown date: Seren convinces TR executives to let her take out MB, fails mission, but doesn't have cover blown
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|unknown date: Miyamoto and Robin go missing in the Andes Mountains on the Mew Mission, Domino is placed in foster care after Giovanni and Seren lose custody battle
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|December 1995/1996: Giovanni is sexually abused by Madame Boss (Flashback in Candle), (Event not revealed), Alden Rochat goes missing shortly after
|February of following year: Bare/ Madame Boss is incarcerated in an asylum, TR is controlled for a time by executives; Giovanni is granted custody of his twin siblings for a time until "De" marries, Stefan moves out
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|March following year: Bare/Giovanni takes over TR
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|August 5th, 1999: Gavriel Jr. (Seren's brother) is born
|1999/2000: Fate/Domino is found after storms rip through Viridian.
Later same year: Giovanni and Seren are granted custody of Domino, adopt her
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|May 3rd, 2002: Genevieve "Jenni" Rochat is born
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|August 1st, 2003: "Lilly" Rochat is born
|Same year, unknown date: Events of Mewtwo Returns
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|Unknown date: Crimson King begins when Junior and Domino are engaged
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|April, 2008: Seren and Jessie are kidnapped by rival organization, Seren meets Silver.
|August 2008: Seren, Jessie, and Silver rescued. Seren loses pregnancy when she is attacked by old enemy.
|September: Junior and Domino wed
|October: G&S renew vows
|December: Jessie and James marry

|Early February 2009: Domino discovers she is pregnant
|Early February: Touch (Warning: Adult Content)
|March: After months of trying, Seren concieves
|August: Legacy/Giovanni the 3rd "Van" is born.
|October 2nd: G&S's 25th anniversary, family travels to Israel beforehand
|October 12th: Seren gives birth to triplets (2 boys, 1 girl) in Israel; Elian Gavriel, Alden Kadmiel, and Ahava Eliana
|December: Silver comes to live with his family permanently

Story stuff:
Soundtrack songs:
  • Seren's Theme (Title theme): Tsumi na Bara [Sinful Rose] 
  • Opening Theme: Season's Call (HYDE)
  • Giovanni's theme (title theme): Crimson King (Demons and Wizards)
  • Rosa-Bree's theme: Hoshiyomi~Reading the Stars (Ar Tonelico)
  • G&S's wedding song: Moondance (Van Morrison)
  • 25th anniversary song: Into The Night (Santana)
  • More to come!

Random stuff:
Giovanni&Sephiroth
are my
SUPERSEXY

SUPERVILLAINS

Comments 
16th-Feb-2010 04:39 am (UTC)
While I was hesitant to read your fics at first, I really do enjoy them. My only real nitpick is that Giovanni and Seren seem like miniature adults when you write them as children. Though, all things considered they probably had to grow up really fast so it's not that big of a deal, it just bugged me a little when I first read "childhood".

But wow, it's hard to describe how much I liked reading "Bare" my penchant for angsty fics aside, it was well written and best of all realistic (after knowing people who have suffered from sexual abuse as well as other types of abuse it annoys me to no end when fanfic writers don't write it properly).
16th-Feb-2010 04:54 am (UTC)
Aw, well thank you! ^_^
Yeah, I'm still learning how to write young kids, so I may go back and rewrite that. Unfortunately, most of the children I know are more mature than you'd think they should be... :/ So, that's probably why...

Whoa, you have no idea what a compliment it is to have someone say that that was realistic. Seriously, I studied psychology unofficially (both reading books and some college-level courses a few year back when I was 17-18), and I was trying to do it correctly. To have someone say it's realistic is great!
May I ask what you found realistic about it (so I can make sure to keep that going whenever I reference the event), and how you found my stuff?

And yes, fanfic writers, or any writers, not bothering to do proper -on any- research on mental disorders and psychological stuff makes me a bit unhappy, since I also know people who were abused and such.
16th-Feb-2010 04:56 am (UTC)
Oh, and incidentally, since they aren't American children, that also adds a bit of adultness to them, or at least to Seren, who grew up for some time in Israel.. (see "Illness")
The children in some cultures are raised differently than ours...
But, that's just my experience from living in Saudi Arabia as a girl...:)
16th-Feb-2010 06:09 am (UTC)
Well, it's difficult to pinpoint exactly what it is, just keep doing what you are doing because it shows that you did your homework when it comes to psychology.

I found your stuff on DA actually (looking for Madame Boss stuff :P)
16th-Feb-2010 06:55 am (UTC)
Nice, I do try...
Of course, having a bunch of friends with psych problems (myself included, though everyone has SOMETHING) helps...

Haha, Yeah, I was searching for stuff and found the drabble there too. :)

Feel free to read more of the stuff. Hopefully the rest is to your liking. <3
16th-Feb-2010 10:16 pm (UTC)
though, I was curious as to where exactly Silver fit into your stories
16th-Feb-2010 11:58 pm (UTC)
Woo, almost posted with my RP account :P

Silver will be popping up in Truth. Since he has an anime counterpart, I'm going with that version. Said anime counterpart has no background, and a extremely brief appearance (the Japanese opening to the Raikou special), so he's a blank slate...
There will be some references so the manga, but that won't be his background.

Thanks for asking!
17th-Feb-2010 03:59 am (UTC)
Yeah, you cross cannons and add your own stuff (hey, I do the same thing) so I was wondering if he would be like from special, the games, or the anime (which, as you said is pretty much blank though I always assumed based off his expression he was less sympathetic then his manga counterpart... but maybe less of a jerk then the game version. maybe.) Though my cannon revolves around the various manga series with little anime references here and there so I expected him to be one of Giovanni and Seren's kids :P

This makes me want to outline my fanfic idea now... for years it's been developing in my head so I never wrote it down though was planning on it.
17th-Feb-2010 04:32 am (UTC)
Hey, it's a Milt...oh wait, that's Ash as a cow.
Hm, steak!

Well, the anime characters like Giovanni have very little real personality, so in order to write an interesting version, I cross canon. My version of Giovanni is a bit closer to Mangaverse; example: you hurt his family, you will probably get left in a pit to die.
He has an odd honor code...
And he definitely goes into Magnificent Bastard territory.

Yeah, I do have him as one of G&S's kids. If you read Letting Go (just posted it last night), one of the twins he mentions is Silver. (although that fic was written while I was in a bad mood, so I'm not sure if the psychology there is as sound)

I have his personality closer to Manga, since in my anime canon, he hasn't been reunited with his parents yet, and is a bit of an a-hole. (anime canon- them in their late 30s; when he's reunited with them, they're around 42...ish; current vs. future)

Let me know when you do, I'd like to see your timeline and ideas. =)
I think this particular version of my stuff has been in my head since 2008...and some from back when I was 12 @_@
17th-Feb-2010 07:15 am (UTC)
Well, I'll be sure to do that :D

though, the ideas themselves are pretty twisted. I mean, it started off as only a little angsty and now it's headed right into Deus Angst Machina territory. (and example being Giovanni's father is based off of Einstein as well as mengele. I think it's because I've always been fascinated with the Dissociation disorders that stem from extreme abuse like that.

...Just to warn you xD.

BUT! There is sunshine and happiness and all that good stuff too! Just... it's probably a little less frequent and not as striking
17th-Feb-2010 07:34 am (UTC)
Wait, can you clarify that first paragraph? For some reason I read it and was like, "Wait, what?"
I think it happened between mentioning Gio's father (what does Alden Rochat have to do with it), and mentioning DID/MPD...
Because if I actually go into DID/MPD territory, it WILL be DAM. :P

Eh, that story (Letting go) probably did come off as extreme angst, mostly because I was in a terrible mood, and needed an outlet. And having them have problems in their marriage because of the one thing actually makes sense to me, given the extreme stress.
But hey, they have some sunshine in the angst ride there... They have their youngest daughters (well, not counting the daughter born recently), they get custody of a deceased friend's daughter (Domino), who fits right in with this strange family...

Eh, the sunshine stuff is mostly after SRCK... I recently realized that my stories seem to be going for almost an "overcoming" theme. It's heavily psychological, and, I've mentioned, a lot of the stuff is based off personal struggles for friends of mine or myself...
And considering I'VE been DAMed before...
Some people just have really bad luck.
:P
Hooray for the TVtropes reference, though!
17th-Feb-2010 08:06 am (UTC)
I was talking about my fic idea being insanely angsty. (not yours lol)

because damn, I'm writing both of his parents being batshit insane... well, Giovanni's father (still havn't quite figured out a nice name yet) started out at least kind of a nice guy ...just having very eccentric ideas and a workaholic but eventually snaps due to various circumstances, passes over the Moral Event Horizon and is eventually killed by madam boss herself... not because she loves her kids but because she see's them as investments. As for her, she was just born a sociopath. She actually reminds me a lot of your version of her.

....AND IT GET'S WORSE.

but I'll tell more about that later ;)
17th-Feb-2010 08:35 am (UTC)
OH
Well, be specific next time! :P
Cause I was like, "I know Gavriel referred to Giovanni as 'son' but I thought I said that he was Seren's Dad..."
Although I'm unsure as to what "as well as mengele" means..
Haha, when you said Einstein, I was like, "Well, Gavriel IS Jewish...)

My name for his Dad is Alden. Means "Old friend" in old english...they named one of their last children after him, too.
Of course, the triplets got weird, poetic names, but...
Go read Illness, and you'll see my version of him... he's a sweetheart. :) I feel sorry for him having to put up with a crazy wife. He eventually has to divorce her to keep Giovanni and his siblings safe...she wasn't happy about that at all (he was where HER money came from; he owned a rather profitable Jewelry business that Giovanni took over when Alden disappeared... Rochat Jewelry, anyone? =D)
Yeah, I toyed with the idea that maybe something actually set her off, but I think I'm just going to have her being a psychopathic/sociopathic bitch that decided around the time Giovanni turned 9 fake being sick, and stop playing nice...
I can't to write Stage ("Finale") just so Giovanni can finally break all emotional ties, including the bad ones, to his mother the bitch. It will be GLORIOUS...
but it won't happen timeline wise until a few years after Silver comes to live with them. >_>

And it doesn't get worse until you kill off a character's kid... (I've killed off at least one of G&S's kids. It was not pleasant to write about, given my own fears about maybe not having children later in life.)
Or maybe it does :P
But a child's death has been the turning point for them...twice.
17th-Feb-2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
I'll try to be more specific when talking about my fics then :P

(PS: everything I am about to say concerns my own fic idea... but dand, I need to read some more of your fics)

(Josef) Mengele was a nazi scientist infamous more his fascination for twins and pretty brutal human experimentation. Known as "The angel of death" and "the beautiful devil" but the people who lived in concentration camps.

There was actually boatloads more angst that was going to be part of my canon, but I actually cut off parts of it because... well, hasn't he suffered enough?

I toyed with idea of giving Giovanni more then one kid but it always just struck me that Silver was his first and only child. Though, I was wondering what to do with Silver's mother seemingly not being around in any canon, I had a few ideas, but I think I may ultimately settle on she just wasn't the sort of person who can handle a long term relationship with someone like Giovanni. Hey, she tried her best but not everybody can do that. Considering she was somewhat based off of Delia that she married a different trainer and had a manga-equivalent of Ash (since he doesn't really exist in the pokemon special manga, though I was only inspired to do this after seeing a picture of Ash, pikachu, Caterpie and Misty drawn in MATO's style.) and just isn't communicating with them anymore because she's done with that chapter of her life. Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer it didn't work out but considering my other two options were either "kill her" or "have her transported to what is assumed is the distortion world like Archie and Cyrus have" I decided to go with the least angsty and most realistic option.
17th-Feb-2010 09:28 pm (UTC)
ugh, I keep almost commenting with my RP account... >_>
Most of the fics have the tag "fanfic" so you can find most of them that way.

OH THAT BASTARD
Sorry, Jewish...
Haha, our versions of his father are completely different. :)

Hm, Manga Gio probably has just Silver, or Silver's the eldest. Anime Gio (my fanon)...he's similarly loyal to his family, but he definitely has more than one...
I think the last count was 11.
Yeah, he and Seren have been...busy. And what's wrong with that? They've got plenty of money, they make sure they spend plenty of time with all of them...
Besides, Jewish and Italian families are both known for large families :P Mix the two, and there most certainly will be.
Too bad Junior and Silver are the only males that really count (the two boys in the triplet group aren't even 6 months yet)...
"Giovanni: I'm drowning in the estrogen ocean D:
Seren: Hey, not my fault you couldn't pop a Y gene out more often..."
But at least Domino popped out a grandson :)

Poor Giovanni D=.
I would kick her ass for not sticking around...
but that's just me.
I think it's still angsty, seeing how she left him, but... :/
Hm, you wouldn't happen to have the pic handy, would you?
17th-Feb-2010 10:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, as long as you can take care of a lot of kids, no reason not to have so many. The thing is, she isn't nearly as strong as Seren, and their history doesn't go back nearly as far so ...yeah...

if it's any consolation I think I'm going to hook him up with Sabrina. If only because she seems to be MAJORLY crushing on him in the adventures manga and in my cannon is really the only person who knows/understands everything that has happened in the past because of her psychic probing around. plus he has Silver, who truly does love his father.

sadly no, it was on pocket monster's imageboard before it switched and hasn't been posted again D:
18th-Feb-2010 03:45 am (UTC)
Oh, I remember reading about that on TVTropes. Well, she's at least LOYAL, from what we've seen.
Although it might be a bit...odd, having someone who understands you THAT completely @_@
But yeah,the more I think about it, in your setting, I think that pairing might work.
Yeah, I think Silver loves his Daddy, too. :)
The fic where I have Silver come to live with his parents shows some of the same insecurities as the Manga version, although I imagine some of them go away when he gets more or less glomped by his father. =P They probably get replaced by emabarassment, though, since it was also in front of Domino, Blue, and Gold/whatever anime version is named.

BTW, what do you have happening with Gio's Soap Opera Disease? *is the one who amended his character sheet to have that*
18th-Feb-2010 04:33 am (UTC)
Well, yeah, but I can't give out TOO many plot points, right? ;P

I also wanted to point out that in earlier chapters he was shown to be suffering from some sort of disease... they just don't specify... I'm thinking it's some sort of blood disorder since he describes it as wasting away and it comes with pretty crippling chest pains

a piece of a scan from an earlier chapter that demonstrates such pain:

18th-Feb-2010 04:48 am (UTC)
...OMB, that is an amazingly awesome icon, may I plz swipe?

Hm...I...haven't seen that. Dammit, I gotta actually read up to that point D: I always get sidetracked...
Heart disease? Most types of it manifest themselves like this, and you are slowly wasting away with some types... given that he's older, I wouldn't be shocked.

EDIT: Dang, I want to read your stories..
18th-Feb-2010 05:23 am (UTC)
Well, thanks to you, I've made icons of my OC's (just looking up things like "albino anime guy" "cute anime girl" etc. so the pics don't come from any specific series, the exception being mdame boss, who I intentionally used a picture of lust from fullmetal alchemist since they are like... twins) I'm going to use them as userpics to make my own journal specifically for this fic once I start writing it, I'm still working on the character sheet. but hey, I'll show them to you anyways:

Dessa (Silver's mama)
Uh... not much to say about her that I havn't said already...


Madame Boss:
the only non-original character who I have an icon for.... at the moment


Renato (giovanni's father)...
cray much?


Jiro (giovanni's step-father)...
by the way, he is a "bastard coated bastard with a bastard filling"... that is honestly the only way I can describe him... oh, but don't worry Giovanni gets his sweet, sweet retribution against him.


Carina (giovanni's older sister)...
there is a REASON why she is not in much of the story (...and why I call this fic a Deus Angst Machina) :(


Valerio (giovanni's older brother)...
he is an albino! :3 and an awesome guy... AND HE DOESN'T DIE YAY.


Mitsuko (giovanni's younger half-sister)...
she is actually similar to Yellow in terms of personality... GUESS WHAT? SHE ALSO DOESN'T DIE YAY.


Minoru (giovanni's younger half-brother, and Mitsuko's fraternal twin)...
he is a baby, and... well, doesn't grow up *points to Jiro's description*


and sorry for stretching the page ;-;
and just commenting back and forth keeps me going... otherwise I'd probably get bored and stop working on the the fic and it would fall deep into the abyss of procrastination hell.

I also find it VERY ironic that I hate OC's 90% of the time and yet most of the characters in my fic are OC's.

and yes you may swipe :'D
18th-Feb-2010 11:10 pm (UTC)
:3 *is happy she could help*
they're just like twins
YES. I knew I recognized that icon.
And...she looks even more like Seren than normal...
(Seren: ;_; I don't want to look like the crazy bitch...)
Lust = Madame Boss FTW.
Speaking of which, what'd you name her? Mine is Ginata Isabella Moretti-Rochat :P (ROE-shaut)

*shirks away from both his birth and step father*

;_; RIP to his sister and brother who do not live. They sound/look so nice, especially Carina.

I...I want his older brother... >_> The icon makes me go :3

Oh, it's quite alright, I haven't gotten this much comment love before! :) And I like hearing about other's fandoms...

*hopes that her Seren is in the good OC category*
Well, you do need some OCs to an extent to flesh out details that aren't there...

Thanks, I'm totally yoinking the Lust pic...

I'll show you my OC pics in the next post or so, I just got home from errand running, and I have to pull them together.

^*points to current avvie* Although this is what I imagine Seren looking like in her 30s.


24th-Feb-2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
Sorry I didn't reply more quickly, I went down to Atlanta for my grandma's funeral. :o

I did figure out a name for her, Amaya (it means night rain, and yeah, all the names are meaningful... except for Jiro, who I made generic (it means "second son") just because...well, he doesn't deserve a nice meaningful name

For the record...

Carina, Valerio, and Renato are all italian names and mean "dear little" one, "strong/valorous", and "reborn" respectively. Matsuko and Minoru mean "pine tree child" and "bear fruit" as sort of a shout out to Giovanni's Japanese name being tree related... and it's also sort of ironic because Minoru died too young to "bear fruit" so to speak. Dessa is a latin name meaning "wandering" why latin? Just because I couldn't figure out what nationality to make her.
25th-Feb-2010 12:01 am (UTC)
(sorry was logged out)

D: I'm so sorry! Had I know I woulda come and seen ya, since I live down here, and personally give you a "I'm sorry" hug!

Haha, you like awesome names and meanings too, huh?
Hm, Amaya...for a fic that has her Japanese, I like it!
No, he doesn't deserve a good one. Bastard.
Aw, I love the kids' names... :)

Well, since we're sharing name meanings...

Iian Giovanni- Both names are variants on John (The height of creativity! XD)
Seren Esther- "Seren" is "star" in Welsh, but is also a rank in the Israeli army (didn't actually know that when I named her) equivalent to Captain. Esther is Persian for "star", BUT is also a Hebrew word/name meaning "Something hidden". So, 'A star that is hidden' or 'A leader that is hidden', basically.

Alden (Gio's dad)- Is Old English for "Old friend" (haha, I found that out after I made him extremely loyal :P)

Ginata Isabella (MB)- Ginata is "flower" in Italian, and got chosen while angsting and listening to Bye bye, Beautiful by Nightwish D: (there's a line about a flower forsaking "the tree", and my mind ran with it... It was NaNoWriMo, okay?) Isabella's just the name I ever heard attributed to her, and it stuck in my head.

Miyamoto's given name is Hanako, and I just named her that because it seemed to work... :P
Domino's mother is Robin Mizaki. I don't have her husband and Miya's hubby named yet...

Rosa-Bree (the first of G&S's) just sounded nice, but she was named for the plant, and possibly for the town in LOTR (LOL)

The quadruplets are Junior, Giovanna, Yocheved, and Aino:
Giovanni jr and Giovanna are of course the same ("A gift from G-d", IIRC), Yocheved is "G-d's glory", and Aino is "The Only One" in...Finnish?. You know, back when they weren't evil and were fairly religious (haha what). (Yoki and Aino don't have middle names yet :P)

Jenni and Lilly are... I think it was Zivah Genevieve and Elisheva something-or-another respectively... >_> Can't find my notes...

The triplets are Elian Gavriel, Ahava Eliana, and Alden Kadmiel, and I had some fun with those. Elian Gavriel is "G-d has answered" (They'd been hoping for another boy after they thought Silver and his twin died) and with her father's name ("Hero of G-d" I think), Ahava Eliana "My G-d has answered in love", and Alden Kadmiel (Kadmiel is the Hebrew version of Alden) means "Old friend who stands before G-d", named after Giovanni's father, who is presumed dead.

Haha, nationality wise, mine are all over the place. Giovanni is Italian/French, as is his father, his mother is Italian. Seren is Israeli, but born in Viridian like Gio, her parents are from the states.
Miya is Japanese, like her husband, Robin is American, but her Husband is Japanese, and there's a few Irish and other folk OCs too...

As for Gio's Japanese name, I lampshaded it: A lot of Japanese have trouble pronouncing it probably, so after the saw the Earth Badge of his father's, they're like "Hey, it looks like a Sakaki branch", and it stuck as a nickname.
Seren (whose name got mistake for a Japanese pronunciation of Selene), just went with Hoshiko "Star Child" when she needed to. :P
25th-Feb-2010 04:11 am (UTC)
well, if you consider all of the multiple personalities it develops from the 7 OC's I just posted to about 32... though it could be less... however it is at least at least 29. Out of those, only 2 really are necessary (giovanni has to have a dad and silver has to have a mom) though I don't consider the alternate personalities separate characters in their own right so that would bring it back down to 7 again.
25th-Feb-2010 04:49 am (UTC)
Oh dear, who are the MPDs?
Messed up early childhood, much?
25th-Feb-2010 05:06 am (UTC)
I really can't emphasize enough how twisted this fic is, because in reality a condition like MPD can only develop through pretty horrific circumstances.

Though I havn't thought of more then a few as far as any semblance of a purpose and personality is concerned, all of the names are based off of the major arcana...

thus far, The Fool, The World, The Hanged man, The Devil, and the Lovers are somewhat developed. There are also 2 others that aren't related to the arcana (there were three but I changed one of them into The World) so that would make 24 not including himself.
25th-Feb-2010 05:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, isn't it like major trauma before the age of 5 or 6 (personality sets after that)?!

Oh, I meant who had the MPD. Gio? He...he's messed up, but doesn't seem to have DID.
Good bob, you're like me, we torture characters! I love you. :P
25th-Feb-2010 07:09 am (UTC)
The absolute latest you can develop it is 6-9.

It was all inspired by one line when he was battling Red that really had nothing to do with anything really but it inspired me none the less LOL. I think it was inevitable that someone would get DID though considering how much I love to torture my characters and fascination with dissociative disorders. (Flowers for Algernon was my favorite book because of the concept of two Charlies before I even could identify what I liked about the book so much... I figured it out on like... my 3rd time reading it)

considering in special he goes back and forth between being nice to kids (the entire chapter where he is tricking Red but acting like a really nice guy who is pretty freaking clueless, also in the Yellow arc he un-froze Red after he was frozen by lorelei, and tried to help Yellow defeat Lance... oh sure it high tailed it out of there pretty quick but for a few moments at least he helped yellow, I forgot whether or not the deoxys that beat the ever-loving-crap out of the bikers that were threatening to break little Lostelle's bones for getting in their way was wild or under his control but regardless he didn't do anything when they were being attacked and when they were pissed off for him to helping them and tried to attack them he pretty much finished Deoxys's work of pulverizing them and insulted them for good measure as well- and she seems to think he must be some kind of superhero for doing that, and just.... Silver.) to being a <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagnificentBastard>Magnificent Bastard</a>, crime lord, and over all just a cutthroat person who doesn't bat an eye at any sort of pain, destruction or death he causes so long as he gets what he wants in the end. I'd like to consider it more of finding a way to tack two completely different characteristics to the same person.
25th-Feb-2010 07:10 am (UTC)
noooooooooooooooooooooo
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25th-Feb-2010 07:30 am (UTC)
Haha, don't worry. I know about Special!Gio being a Magnificent Bastard. I love him for it! :P
I fully intend to have the line "So then his mother says, 'Giovanni, you magnificent bastard! I edited your book!'" in a fic (Giovanni telling Blue and Jimmy [Gold] a story when Silver comes back to Viridian)
25th-Feb-2010 07:27 am (UTC)
Yeah, it takes some pretty messed up stuff to fracture a personality.

Hm, never heard of it.

Hm, I always attributed it to extreme compartmentalism (He does it a lot in my stories. Extreme loyalty to family [it's all he's got], will kick the everliving tar out of ANYONE who threatens them [He left the bastard that raped his wife twice and killed their unborn child in a burning building to roast alive (Oh, bob, it's going to feel good writing that story!)...oh, and the guy kidnapped Silver at birth. He's asking to die.], but having this extreme dislike for most of the rest of the world...heh, started out as him wanting to get back at 'justice' because he didn't get it with his mother.)

But, I'm starting to wonder if that could be the case...
I have an acquaintance who is MPD, and from what I hear from my 'brothers', her personalities are completely different. There's one that's basically just a little girl, one that's her 'normal' one (?), I think one called 'seeker' (she's searching for a way to reconcile the personalities), and a bunch I can't recall. Among other things, she was raped at least once and there was something about a Satanic ritual...and those are F***ing messed up. ;_;

*strokes chin in thought* You know, if you're going to write this, make sure you read everything you can on the subject. I can tell you've already done a lot of research, but would you mind if I asked one of my friends for book recs for you? The one I had the codependent crush on knows a ton about it, and even the other 'brother' knows a bunch...
25th-Feb-2010 07:36 am (UTC)
And speaking of Lance, my Author-insert Hadassah is on Pokedressing... One of the threads has her talking to Lance. I'm really hoping my little Rocketeer and he don't come across Giovanni on the island (and he's already there)...
Then it's like "OH CRABCAKES! My Boss, and then this guy who I just befriended... Argh!" (I have a thing about betraying friends: I don't. But It's my Boss...)
As awesome as it would be to RP with Gio, I'll freak if it happens on the Lance thread. Lance already is looking at me funny because I was saying something about getting attacked by a Dragonite. He's like "WAITAMINUTE, they're gentle, WTF?!"
Haha, I dig myself in deep.
25th-Feb-2010 08:30 am (UTC)
I only started research because I have dissociation issues on my own (not DID though) and stumbled upon it, there are a lot of good resources online.

I've basically been reading about it for a year or two now. it will be undoubtedly difficult to pull off but at least it gives me something to do.

I actually wanted to buy some books but I fear judgment to a ridiculous extent. my step-dad already made a comment along the lines that "your problem is our sanity" which I am assuming he meant a lack thereof but then again that could have been related to one of the priests he watches on TV where all the crazy people were sent by the devil and ugh... every time I see him I wish I could punch through the TV.
25th-Feb-2010 09:20 am (UTC)
Yeah, but there's also terrible ones :P I've seen them.
You know what's hard to research, both because there's not alot on it and because its hard to read? Stuff on women raping men. I've been trying to do so more research on it, but it's hard to find anything online -_-

Haha, those guys. I think I watched a video once of one of those guys doing the whole "slaying in the spirit" thing, and it was set to "let the bodies hit the floor". It was hilarious.
It's funny, because I do think there are some spiritual aspects to some things (haha, I'm Jewish), but I can tell you that there's actually helping the people, and a lot of the 'spirit' stuff isn't it...
Wait, the people were sent by the devil? Oh bob! @_@ I thought you were talking about the televangelists that are more or less crazy... (well, them too)
Yeah, I seriously want to strangle a lot of the guys on tv.
GAHHHHHH
25th-Feb-2010 04:26 pm (UTC)
I make sure they are good :P

True, there isn't much out there... I just googled "female on male sexual abuse" and got a lot of stuff. this link has a lot of good info but I don't think it is anything you havn't read already. One of the best sources for PTSD info can be found here.

Yeah the televangel guy was saying "all the crazy people in your life were sent by the devil" etc. the sad thing is they believe what he is saying. Because y'know, there is no one else in the world but yourself and everyone else was just sent to test your faith, amiright? (I'm in sarcasm mode) out of the big 3 of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, I find Islam to be the most believable... it's the final edition! Torah... new testament... Koran! Judaism is kind of tied to it though if only because historically they've been treated like shit and it never really stopped... so it would never surprise me if they were the chosen ones in the end. Oh, I had a Jewish friend once... she liked Pokemon and Stargate :P I went to her Bat Mitzvah...
25th-Feb-2010 04:57 pm (UTC)
Hm, I believe I know the first one, haven't seen the second one.

Here's how it works: In most religions, only 20% of their numbers are true to the faith. Christianity included... unfortunately there happen to be a bunch of whackos in all religions... but among the ones who know what they're talking about, that's not the consensus. Amazing what seperates the true from the false believers...

*visibly twitches about Islam* Sorry, reflex.
You do realize that Allah is in no way, shape or form, the same god as the other one?
Also, the Koran is chock full of errors, in it's original language. It contradicts itself all the time, among other things... since we lived in Saudi before we knew we were Jewish, my father studied it when he was searching.

Considering we've somehow survived EVERYTHING, I'd say that has to prove something. Go read up on the Yom Kippur War and the 6 day War. There's something going on there...
25th-Feb-2010 08:46 pm (UTC)
ah, my ignorance is showing... ^^;
25th-Feb-2010 08:53 pm (UTC)
Haha, don't worry. A lot of people don't know that.

But basically, Mohammed took a bunch of the stories from the Torah and the Christians, and put them in to make it seemed authentic. At one point he actually liked the Jews (in one passage, it refers to us as "our brothers"; they hid him from his enemies at one point), but when they wouldn't convert over, he had the town wiped out. And then he said "Okay, don't like them anymore. Kill them...in the3 name of Allah!" So yeah...

Amazing what you can learn in a foreign country...
25th-Feb-2010 09:01 pm (UTC)
yeah, not much to say in response to that, except that those kinds of things are just plain sad.
26th-Feb-2010 03:06 am (UTC)
What's even worse is that we're related to them by Abraham. Until the whole Mohammed thing, we got along, more or less...
>_>
So where were you coming from when you came down here?
26th-Feb-2010 04:22 am (UTC)
New York, it was over 1000 miles going in one direction, over 2000 miles if you count going there and going back @_@
26th-Feb-2010 05:07 am (UTC)
@_@ is right! By car?! x_x Ughhhh, I remember doing something similar when we went to DC a few years back. Ouch.
26th-Feb-2010 04:45 pm (UTC)
yep, it was in a car, thankfully they rented a nice car... but it basically went like this:

-Drive for an entire day
stop and spend the night as step-dad's friend's house who lives around DC
-Drive all of the next day
-DESTINATION!

with food and potty breaks sprinkled in.

it wasn't too bad, though sometimes I did get a little ancy about being in a small space for so long with no way to get out. It was mostly towards the end of the trip.

It STILL beats being on a plane for 22 hours u_u
26th-Feb-2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
Blehhhhh. Long car rides suuuuck. Especially with me and my long legs. Pretty bad when you have to keepyour kness bent at an odd angle the entire trip.
Hah, yeah, pretty close to trip to DC, IIRC. Except I think we got up super early and drove the whole way there... ~>_>~ *arm wiggles in protest*

OH BOB...plane rides are the worst. Especially since you were coming down here. We have one of the higher security places in the country, so you have to claim your baggage, send through the thing, then claim it again. While going through the lines forever... (although that baggage thing may be only for overseas trips)
u_u is right. When I went to Israel, we stopped in Germany first, but all total it was at least 18 hours, probabaly closer to 22...
Also, Germany is still dicks to you if you come from Israel. No kidding. >.>
26th-Feb-2010 11:04 pm (UTC)
That doesn't surprise me...

I wasn't riding a plane on this particular trip, but I did when I went to France/Spain with the rest of my college level foreign language class... most of the students took french and it was REALLY awkward the few days we had in France because I knew NO French whatsoever but it made a small part of me happy when we went to Spain and other people wanted me to help them since they knew no Spanish... while they weren't outright mean or arrogant like people say they are they were certainly... uptight. Ah, differences in culture... But the Spanish people were actually really nice. Well, except if you are French, they hate the French. Go Figure.
27th-Feb-2010 12:41 am (UTC)
Stupid 'krauts' :P

I've been to France when I was a little girl. As long as you stay in the countryside, and don't let anyone know you're from America, you're usually okay. Seriously, make up a home in Canada when you go abroad, preferably near the American border so it makes sense that French isn't your main language :P
Oh, everyone hates the French. They're a bunch of pompous asses that can't even bother to have non-pay toilets in Paris, so the whole place smells. The only cool thing about French were the Franks, before they were French.

I've always wanted to go to Spain, since my Jewish ancestry comes from there (My Jewish last name is Moreno, though my normal one isn't). Also want to go sightseeing there. Is it really pretty?

Haha, culture differences are both fun and infuriating. I felt so at home when I was in Israel because I knew this culture, I had been brought up in the Middle East, in Saudi, so it was friendly and lovely and wonderful.
Then we had to go to Germany... X_X Oh bob, I wanted to bunch them.
27th-Feb-2010 06:10 am (UTC)
Spain is 100 times better then France in my personal opinion... for one, it's actually a lot cleaner, the Spanish culture is pretty laid back, the places we visited were really pretty. (We only visited Madrid and Toledo and our tour guide who lives in southern Spain said these two cities were not all that great in comparison) just... watch out for pick pocketers, and as for the Spanish people themselves the only bad things I can say about them is that they have a lot of pride, as in nearly ridiculous amounts (it's not like arrogance... just... pride if that makes sense) and it would be well advised not to piss them off. Though I must admit the anti-France rant our tour guide did was epic and hilarious because the teacher who took us on these trips is practically in love with France and it ended up in a back and forth rant with her trying really hard to defend France. It really didn't work. But if you are looking for sight seeing specifically: I'd highly recommend Toledo (because it is a medieval city, it is really cool and the scenery is just plain breathtaking... even if it is a little disturbing because of it's history with the Spanish inquisition. One of the churches even still has the shackles of the tortured people outside it's walls) and the Real Jardín Botánico de Madrid, which is a huuuuge garden. Both were my favorite parts of the trip.
28th-Feb-2010 04:13 am (UTC)
(Sorry for late response. I had to go do Jewish things :P Tonight was the start of Purim, so service was a bit longer)

Anything's better than France... :P
And the French are quite uptight buggers. Nice to know the Castillians are laid back.
And it makes perfect sense for someone to be proud, but not arrogant. The two happen to coincide a lot, though. >_> But they're proud of their heritage, of their culture. Spain has a rich history, so I cannot fault them for this. Americans, on the other hand... are mostly just arrogant. :/
Haha, I wish I could have seen the rant. :3

UGH, I LOVE medieval stuff and places ^_^
Except for the Inquisition part...
Queen Isabella was a bitch. :/
*The inquisition, what a show!*

Although the idea of shackles is kind of cool...
And I love gardens. If I could grow something, I'd totally have one.
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